More AOHell

 

I don’t think anyone takes AOL seriously anymore, apart from it being a serious example of cultural degeneracy.

What the portal of Hell looks like.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, I suppose that if someone were tempted to make The National Enquirer, or some other supermarket checkout lane tabloid trash their Internet starting page, then AOL might seem like an attractive option.

Otherwise, I cannot think of a single reason to sign up. In fact, as I and numerous others have said before, it is difficult merely to justify keeping an old e-mail account there, no matter how many years you may have had it.

As if any of us really needed further evidence of the mental and moral squalor of the AOL experience, here’s  sampling of “ledes” from today’s headlines. Recall too, that what appears here appears despite the fact that the greeting screen was deliberately set to the “business” option .

Only on the last item listed do they finally get to a political issue: with the expected framing, of course.

 

… ‘heartbroken’

… incredible ‘thank you’

… ‘graphic’ exhibit

… most grueling commute ever

… Waiter deals with unpaid tab in best way

Best haircuts for your 40s, 50s and 60s

Creatures found dwelling on 3rd floor of school

Woman’s funny imitations …

Executive chefs are among the happiest …

Two short words may have saved woman’s life …

… how Teresa is really doing in prison

The trick to perfect hard and soft boiled eggs …

Man fools girlfriend …

Celebrity hair stylist …

… lurid murder trial

Girl learns startling truth …

Judge Judy reportedly earns $47 million … a year

Polygamist family lived in fear …

Sinister ‘treats’ send dogs to hospital …

[actress Kate] Hudson makes leap into a bold new business …

Heinous crime’ strikes leading UK dog show

Disturbing video of Suge killing man emerges …

GOP senators undermine Iran deal with letter …

 

 

 

 

 

#NYPD Turn Their Backs On Violence Instigator And Mayor #DeBlasio

NYPD, you’re not alone.

HT BlahBlah

American Liberal Times blog, and where ravening left-liberalism leads …

[Update … as the author of the subject blog below attempts to figure out what to do with his site and energies, it has become viewable once again to any of the general public who might be interested. For my own part it served well enough as a warning; as much when it was not available for a few seconds of viewing, as when it occasionally was. It may not be pleasant to watch someone lose what is left of their faculty of reason to the effects of a self-induced mania, but the image, and the lesson, certainly stays with you.]

 

Down the rabbit hole …

 

 

“Therein lies the path to madness”

Somebody needs serious help

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Our erstwhile commenter John The Liberal, he of the silly hat and still proprietor of American Liberal Times, seems to have embarked on a journey that has finally lead him over the edge. Although we neither comment there any longer, nor attempt to, an occasional glance at the raving political lunacy fulminating from his blog, serves as a healthful reminder to ourselves not to let things get too out of hand; lest we end up like that. Despite his constant pleas for comment, readers of this blog will recollect that John The Liberal not only banned conservative commenters from his blog, but also reported that he went through years of postings in order to purge all trace of their past presence. This does not necessarily mean that he does not himself read conservative blogs, since his postings on his own site often reference and rail against the contemptuous views which conservatives have reportedly displayed both toward him and his product.

 

Now, unless he is making this up, or is referencing very old comments or newly screened comments he does not allow to post, he is reading conservative comments on conservative blogs.

 

Yet nursing these grievances is not quite enough. Apparently the mere fact that conservative infidels can see his blog at all is too much insult for John The Liberal to bear. Mr. Hitchcock of this blog, once reported that he was unable to return the favor of John the Liberal’s visit here, because he was peremptorily banned from American Liberal Times blog or filtered out before having even gotten one comment posted. Now, as if to prove that John The Liberal and his loyal crew of vomit eaters need no stinkin’ outsiders at all, John The Liberal, has, and apparently intentionally, banned anyone not previously cleared from even looking at his site.

How “liberal” of him.

Mine all mine

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because so many of us have been laughing at it, rather than with the American Liberal Times blog, there might be a kind of perverse logic there. If John The Liberal refuses to give up his morally shameful practices, he will at least hide them from prying eyes.

 

Just goes to show what self-abuse leads to ultimately …

My precious! MY PRECIOUS!

The Sad Thing Is…

Our media, our Colleges, our public education are the most depraved, anti-American they have ever been in the history of the US. And the sad thing is…

In 15 years, I’ll be able to say the same thing with complete accuracy.

We Could Annex The Northern Half Of It

Back when we had control of the northern half of it, we should’ve annexed it then. But we didn’t, and we’ve been suffering for it since. And what is “it”, you ask? “It” is this.

And I know certain empty heads will esplode because I wrote this.

Hey, @voxdotcom, #Stereotype Much? #Wrong Much?

Go take their “quiz” and see for yourself how wrong VOX is. As is normal for VOX. They’re never, ever, and I do mean ever, right about anything. Even people on the Left are laughing at VOX over this one.

How did I do? Anyone who knows me will see what a bunch of hooey the VOX thing is.

Taking Their Chains Off

HT OLLPOH

Surely they have been called Uncle Toms, Race Traitors, Oreos, House Ni**ers, Tokens, etc by the Left already.

Today’s Muddled East Warring Outbreaks has its Roots in the Armistice of WW1

I received an email the other day from a Think Tank on World events. The group is called STRATFOR and tackles all types of Issues on World Problems. I dod not get the big in depth reports mostly made for International Businesses and other interests that have reasons to know what goes on in the world for News Analysis, Financial Decisions, International Corporations and others on an in depth need to know. For me, it’s sort of a casual curiosity of why things may go bump in the night. However, in the last few days this one report came through on the Muddled East and it instantly made things clearer as to why I instinctively have labeled the area “The Muddled East” for years.

First off over the centuries Islam has been at war with the West. Their extent ranged at one time from the Pyrenees Mountains in the west between France and Spain, and in the east from Instanbul to Vienna and Eastwards. By 1492 they were out of Spain, and later pushed to the Balkans. By the late 19th Century what was left was the Ottoman Empire/Caliphate. By World War1 it was somewhat worn out. In WW1 it hitched its wagon to the equally Austro-Hungarian Empire. Unfortunately, they lost that bet.

While Germany was being pounded at Versailles, Turkey or the Ottomans were waiting their turn at the table. They went to the Table with DEMANDS. They were told they LOST and was handed their Treaty and told to SIGN. They did, but hated it since their crumbling Empire was sliced and diced to where it is or being contested today. So, the reality was there was a treaty, but in the Muddled East was there PEACE.

Since the same wagons were rehitched in WW2, the outcome was worse since Israel was introduced into the Muddled area. So, after I read the following report, and watched Turkey in the last few days just watching ISIS come to the Syrian-Turkey border, but not crossing it, Turkey in a “Humanitarian” effort sat on its ASS. Apparently, the ghost of the WW1 is still alive and muddling the more than usual Muddled East.

Turkey, the Kurds and Iraq: The Prize and Peril of Kirkuk
Geopolitical Weekly
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 7, 2014

By Reva Bhalla

In June 1919, aboard an Allied warship en route to Paris, sat Damat Ferid Pasha, the Grand Vizier of a crumbling Ottoman Empire. The elderly statesman, donning an iconic red fez and boasting an impeccably groomed mustache, held in his hands a memorandum that he was to present to the Allied powers at the Quai d’Orsay. The negotiations on postwar reparations started five months earlier, but the Ottoman delegation was prepared to make the most of its tardy invitation to the talks. As he journeyed across the Mediterranean that summer toward the French shore, Damat Ferid mentally rehearsed the list of demands he would make to the Allied powers during his last-ditch effort to hold the empire together.

Read it all here:
http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/turkey-kurds-and-iraq-prize-and-peril-kirkuk#axzz3Fbo2JIBv

Anyway, it’s not a pretty picture, and let’s not get started on Obola

If I Were The Devil – by Paul Harvey

<em>Paul Harvey predated Rush Limbaugh by a decade or more. However, I always thought his 5 minute commentaries at times made more sense than an hour of Rush. We did not have talk radio in the 60’s, but we had Paul Harvey and his noon time comments. His “rest of the story” comments were good stories of good people. However, reading this today rings true and worse in the following 50 years:</em>

<em><strong>The oldest genuine Paul Harvey version of this piece we’ve found so far appeared in his newspaper column in 1964:</strong></em> (Snopes)( http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/devil.asp)

<strong>If I Were the Devil </strong>

If I were the Prince of Darkness I would want to engulf the whole earth in darkness.

I’d have a third of its real estate and four-fifths of its population, but I would not be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree.

So I should set about however necessary, to take over the United States.

I would begin with a campaign of whispers.

With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whispers to you as I whispered to Eve, “Do as you please.”

<strong>To the young I would whisper “The Bible is a myth.” I would convince them that “man created God,” instead of the other way around. I would confide that “what is bad is good and what is good is square.”</strong>

In the ears of the young married I would whisper that work is debasing, that cocktail parties are good for you. <strong>I would caution them not to be “extreme” in religion, in patriotism, in moral conduct. </strong>

And the old I would teach to pray — to say after me — <strong>”Our father which are in Washington.” </strong>

Then I’d get organized.

I’d educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting so that anything else would appear dull, uninteresting.

I’d threaten TV with dirtier movies, and vice-versa.

I’d infiltrate unions and urge more loafing, less work. Idle hands usually work for me.

I’d peddle narcotics to whom I could, I’d sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction, I’d tranquilize the rest with pills.

If I were the Devil, I would encourage schools to refine young intellects, but neglect to discipline emotions; let those run wild.

I’d designate an atheist to front for me before the highest courts and I’d get preachers to say, “She’s right.”

<strong>With flattery and promises of power I would get the courts to vote against God and in favor of pornography.</strong>

<strong>Thus I would evict God from the courthouse, then from the schoolhouse, then from the Houses of Congress</strong>.

Then in his own churches I’d substitute psychology for religion and deify science.

If I were Satan I’d make the symbol of Easter an egg

And the symbol of Christmas a bottle.

<strong>If I were the Devil I’d take from those who have and give to those who wanted until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious. Then my police state would force everybody back to work.</strong>

Then I would separate families, putting children in uniform, women in coal mines and objectors in slave-labor camps.

If I were Satan I’d just keep doing what I’m doing and the whole world go to hell as sure as the Devil.
<em>Does this sound familiar. Paul Harvey wrote it in 1964, it could just as well been written in 2014</em>.

If ANYONE in the BO Maldministration Opens Their Mouth, WILL WE HEAR THE TRUTH??

My vote is never.  Around past 4:30PM Today, Friday, a group of mouth movers trotted out on the White House Briefing Room stage to ASSURE there are NO PROBLEMS in Obolama Land (One thing I read from the Book BO learned from as a child in Indonesia, if a lie is necessary, by all means tell it).  Which leads to the statements from the mouth movers that ALL Former Obolama outbreaks were conquered and stuffed out from the 70′s to last year. “Reassurance flowed from these jaw jackers. Then as is everything Obama, it didn’t quite ring TRUE. Yes, there were outbreaks in the years the mouth breathers said, but they quite haven’t matched today’s outbreak. (I know, what’s a small difference? Just semantics.

But our fellow Bloggers at the “Modern Survival Blog” did some research to challenge the Jaw Jackers. Here in part of an item from the MSB is this:

There’s Something Very Different About This Ebola
October 3, 2014, by Ken Jorgustin
Modern Survival Blog

The first case of Ebola was during 1976 which infected 318 people (280 died).
The second major Ebola outbreak was during 1995 with 315 cases (killing 254).
During 2003 Ebola infected 143 and killed 128.
In 2007 Ebola affected 264 individuals resulting in 187 deaths.
This time, in 2014, as of this post date, Ebola has been confirmed to have infected 7,000 and is expected to rise to 20,000 by November and perhaps 1.4 million by January 2015.
SOMETHING IS VERY DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS EBOLA

Continue Here PLEASE for the full article: (It’s worth it)
http://modernsurvivalblog.com/pandemic/theres-something-very-different-about-this-ebola/

Ken’s policy on “borrowing” his info is this
Excerpts and links may be used, provided that full and clear credit is given to ModernSurvivalBlog.com with appropriate and specific direction to the original content.

Anyway, the podium standers wanted DESPARATELY to DOWNPLAY this Obomala Issue. They cited with high dudgeon of reassurance this Obolama will be licked 1-2-3. But they stated the following:
The 1st case of Ebola was during 1976 and it was wiped out. But neglected to tell us it infected 318 people (280 died).
The 2nd case of Ebola was during 1995 and it was wiped out. But neglected to tell us it infected 315 people (254 died).
The 3rd case of Ebola was during 2003 and it was wiped out. But neglected to tell us it infected 143 people (128 died).
And the last case of Ebola was during 2007 and it was wiped out. But neglected to tell us it infected 264 people (187 died).

Now in 2014 as of Ken’s posting date, Ebola has been confirmed to have infected 7,000 and is expected to rise to 20,000 by November and perhaps 1.4 million by January 2015. It seems the earlier dated infected and eradicated in total is much smaller. A total of under 1,000 combined. It was just that little item left out of a LATE FRIDAY AFTERNOON PRESS CONFERENCE. But with all Campaign speeches of BO, Everything is OK, and we are much better off now than 6 years ago. (wink) OOOPS, but Obama does lie as he was taught when the Truth Becomes INCONVENIENT as his “Book” learning in Indonesia taught him.

I’m sure someday, if this doesn’t wipe us out, we might find the truth. (Or maybe the Border crashers brought it like the respitory disease that can paralyze people)

BO’s Pre 9/11 Prime Time Speech

I have no hope that anything of substance will come out of BO’s Wednesday Night, pre 9/11 speech about ISIS. He has not been forceful on anything but a golf ball. I hope I’m wrong, but this tiger’s stripes haven’t changed, except for the worst, since Jan. 21, 2009. What else can we expect? A 180 deg turnaround?

American “Poor” vs Filipino Working Class

In the Philippines, it is easy to find people making 8000 PHP (Philippine Pesos) per month. Very easy. At the current rate of roughly 43.60 PHP per USD, that comes out to about 183.50 dollars per month. Let me repeat that. It is easy to find a Pinoy or a Pinay (not derogatory at all) who makes less than 200 US Dollars per month. At 50 pesos per day, or roughly 1.20 dollars per day, a Pinoy phone can be unli. That’s unlimited. So, that’s 1500 pesos per month, or 18.75 percent of their monthly pay. More than 5 and a half days a month working, just for an entire month of unlimited cell phone service. So, they do not unli their phones every day. Only when necessary. Does anyone work more than 5.5 days a month just to pay for their cell phone in the US? No? Then sit down and shut up.

A brand new cell phone costs 2400 PHP, and it doesn’t even have a motion sensor to turn the image sideways when you turn your phone. That’s nearly 1/3 of a month of pay. Did you pay more than an entire week’s worth of wages for your even better phone? No? Then sit down and shut up.

Going to the cinema, it costs 150 PHP for a 2-D movie, or more than half a day’s pay (less than 4 bucks), based on working 30 days a month. Half a day’s pay. Does anyone working at McDonalds have to work an entire day in order to make enough money to buy two tickets to the movie theater? No? Then shut up about being poor. I mean, seriously.

I saw a report about a proposed new, lower graduated income tax law for the Philippines. If I remember correctly, 500k was where the absolute top rate kicked in. 500,000 Philippine Pesos. 11,468 US Dollars. For a top rate of close to 1/3 of your pay. Do you pay close to 1/3 of your pay in income taxes if you make 12,000 USD? No? Then sit the fornicate down and shut the sheol up.

America’s “poor” are not poor. I have no respect for and no empathy for fast food workers who think they can commit crimes in order to do anything their Socialist puppeteers want. Period.

Nothing Is Coincidental in ObamaLand

Two stories popped up on Facebook that should raise eybrows around Europe Especially. Taken individually, it’s a well??? But together it should set off ALARM BELLS across at least Europe. First is that Islamist (no brand or flavor mentioned, but is that necessary?) stole ELEVEN Planes from Tripoli AP. Then our dear leader opens the ability of Flight Training to Libyans. 9/11 anyone. I’m 99% sure they won’t make it here, but Europe, especially Italy are close. ISIS already has a price on Pope Francis’s Head. Need I speculate more?

11 Planes Taken From Tripoli AP
(by Bill Gertz, Washington Free Beacon) — Islamist militias in Libya took control of nearly a dozen commercial jetliners last month, and western intelligence agencies recently issued a warning that the jets could be used in terrorist attacks across North Africa.

Intelligence reports of the stolen jetliners were distributed within the U.S. government over the past two weeks and included a warning that one or more of the aircraft could be used in an attack later this month on the date marking the anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks against New York and Washington, said U.S. officials familiar with the reports.

More Here

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/report-11-commercial-jetliners-missing-after-islamist-takeover-of-tripoli-airport-developing

THEN!!!!!!!!!!!

Obama Lifts Ban on Libyans Attending U.S. Flight Schools, Training In Nuke Science
Ban has been in place since 1983

BY: Adam Kredo
August 12, 2014 7:45 am

The Obama administration has lifted longtime restrictions on Libyans attending flight schools in the United States and training here in nuclear science, according to a final amendment of the ban recently approved by the Office of Management and Budget (OMB).

Less than two years after the deadly terrorist attacks in Benghazi, Libya that killed four Americans, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is poised to sign off on an amendment reversing the ban, which was enacted following a wave or terrorist attacks in 1980s and prevents Libyans from studying these sensitive trades in the United States.

More of this HERE:

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/obama-lifts-ban-on-libyans-attending-u-s-flight-schools-training-in-nuke-science/

Hate Messages Sent To This Site

you were a lousy teacher and you totes deserve your bad karma. hope you bankrupt soon.

That was attempted to be put up on my Good News And Bad News article.

The bad news is I’m not a professor at University of Wisconsin-Madison, or at Wyoming. You see, I died in 1712.

The good news is I’m one undead individual with enough brain power left not to vote Democrat.

Let’s see how many remember this:

“Will the real John Hitchcock please stand up?”

Conversations with an ardent Liberal

Conversations with an ardent Liberal … another failed experiment

 

As was apparent from my earlier “We had a liberal visitor” post, I had recently engaged in the project of continuing an exchange with a self-identified liberal blogger named John, who had visited this site and commented on my post concerning the AOL/Huffington Post news comment policy: Now, it’s “Facebook Conversations”

For those who might have missed it,  Huffington Post material, unlike strictly AOL articles, of which there are apparently still some, invites comment only through “Facebook conversations”.  In other words if you comment on a news article you will be doing so through your Facebook identity. Assuming you have one.

John basically agreed with my take on the issue and said so. Since he made sure to leave a link to his own blog in his response, I then reciprocated his visit here with one of my own to his site American Liberal Times.

John the Liberal’s site was and is a curious mix of material and attitudes. And to be fair, John the Liberal makes no bones about the fact that it is: stating outright that it is a blog about his opinions and views and that he doesn’t intend to be forced into the position of justifying or defending the logic and reasonableness of his views.

“TERMS OF SERVICE

Some people who stop here and read stuff might get offended at my rather strong and direct tone.

If you get offended by something you read here then I am sorry and I suggest that if you are going to get offended at the way I write my blog then you have the option to immediately leave this blog – read no further and go somewhere else to read.  It is that simple.  If you don’t like my “Program” then just turn the dial and find something else somewhere else on the Internet that you do like better.  No big deal is it?

The second point I would like to make is that I do not ordinarily allow Radical Right Wingers or those who I have come to think of as “Obama Haters” or haters of Democrats, Liberals and Progressives to leave any comments on this site. (I do make some exceptions at my discretion however.)   There are plenty of Right Wing Radical Hate-Mongering blogs on the Internet and if that is your thing then I suggest you find one of those to visit or to haunt or to hang out at because your propaganda and your attitudes are not always welcome on “AMERICAN LIBERAL TIMES”

“AMERICAN LIBERAL TIMES”  is my blog and I post whatever I want to post on it and I allow whoever I want to allow to post comments on it and I prohibit anyone from posting or commenting when I don’t like what they have to say and that is my privilege as a blogger and because of the great number of Rightist Numwads and Mindless Ninkos who try to troll me on this blog I rarely – – if ever – – accept any comment from any right wing source anymore.  Too bad!

To the rest of you – – – to anyone who thinks anywhere near the same way as I do – – WELCOME! … “

 

Nonetheless, on June 18th he certainly appeared to make a stab at embracing reasonableness when he volunteered that he was considering tempering the vehemence and vitriol with which his postings were typically imbued.

“Courtesy, Respect And Good Taste Never Go Out Of Style!

… I am fully convinced that it is perfectly reasonable and achievable to arrive at the point where we can inform the world we believe a certain politician might not be acting in the best interests of his constituents without resorting to such crudities as “Chief Fraud” or other such juvenile crud-encrusted delicacies of the vernacular.

One favor I would ask of my readers: If you see me engaging in any conversation that seems to you like it might qualify as “Bad Taste” please leave me a comment and alert me to my digression . . . regression. I definitely want to elevate “American Liberal Times” above the level of decency employed by a great number of what I call “Right Wing Hater Blogs.”

I cannot do it alone and that is why I ask my Readers to participate in the process of adding a little more panache to this blog.”

I even congratulated John on this, and figured that with that as a predicate, I might venture on a short-term experiment in order to see just what potential there might be for an actual dialog with a partisan liberal; notwithstanding John’s forthrightness in stating upfront that he was, in essence, interested in no such thing.

A conclusion which was,  I must admit, inescapably reinforced by posts such as this:

7/1/2014

More Changes To The Blog But I Do Not Know If They Will Last:

First of all let me say that I have no idea of whether or not a blog can be crawled by the “Crawlers” without each post being preceded by a formal “Headline.”  But I would say that I am about to find out.  I have seen other blogs with high readership that do not make use of headlines and so I am trying it myself – – for the time being.

Secondly:  I have spent considerable time today going back through the posts on this blog and deleting forever almost all comments left on here by Right Wingers over the years. …”

Now, a man determined to go back years in order to purge any trace of “right-wing” commentary from his blog is not likely to be a man reasoned with easily.

But, John seemed so inordinately grateful for the comments I left,

“Dear DNW:

First of all let me say that I sincerely appreciate your visit today and I am grateful you took your time to comment.”

Dear DNW:
Thank you for your thoughtful and insightful comment.

… that I wondered if he could not somehow, and against his natural inclinations, be finessed into an intelligent conversation. After all, what’s a month more?  I have already spent years trying to do so with other political progressives. That is, to discover if – contrary to all appearances –  there really is not something like a right reasoning mind behind the modern liberal face; a faculty which could be carefully teased out of the appetitive confusion behind the eyes … some residual capacity, some sputtering wisp of a reasoning soul which could be carefully fanned to life.

Now this would necessarily not be easy. Not only because John had stated that he was not particularly interested in reasoning, but in addition because he posted at such a frantic pace. For example, he placed up what I count as eight posts on July 1st, alone. Perhaps then, comments like these, made in response to my own, should have proved enough.

” … My interpreting principles change like the myriad colors of a Texas sunset because all of Creation is always in a state of flux ( evolving . . always evolving . .) and even in our social order that which was acceptable ages and ages ago ( The stoning of disobedience to death in public spectacles of death ) has now moved forward ( Progressed ) to where public stoning has become abhorrent to most people and some less severe measure has been compromised upon.

I do not care to justify moral preferences or claims because my own moral preference and claims don’t amount to anything of much significance in such a vast and diverse society as ours and in times when generational and demographic changes are on the cusp of making cataclysmic changes in many of our generally accepted perceptions of many things at many levels. I simply present what I think ( at the moment I think it ) knowing full well that it might all change dramatically as new impressions are received inside of myself either by inspiration or by being impressed from influences without. Why be a hypocrite about it?”

… and then there were discouraging things like this:

John, in the original posting:

“I have discovered over the years that (A) It is totally impossible to have a reasonable conversation with most radical Righties, …”

Me, in response:

” …What do you mean by “a reasonable” conversation? Are you referring to some lack of ability in the area of logical analysis? A specific lack of historical knowledge? Certainly you cannot be referring to a reluctance to “respond on point”, since you quite clearly stated that you would not be held to any such a standard yourself …”

John, in reply:

” … And what is my notion of a reasonable conversation? I have no concrete notions of a reasonable conversation because for one thing this blog is not intended to be a conversation or a debate . . it is an “Opinion” blog . . my opinions . . . but maybe a more reasonable “Conversation” in this instance might be condensed as “Thank you for your comments. I always appreciate receiving your comments.” (Evasive enough is it?) 🙂”

 

And so it continued to inexorably and predictably play out.  He would not respond on point because it was an opinion blog, and was his, and he would say whatever he wanted. And while he accused conservatives of making a reasonable exchange impossible,  as we see above, he would not, or could not, say what it was he considered as reasonable.

In some ways he was remarkably like our old friend Perry Hood. Grown up poor. Grateful to the government for lifting him out of poverty; now of a certain age – 76 today apparently;  prone to quoting Christian scriptures for rhetorical purposes while making a certain contempt for Christianity itself quite clear; and, oh yes, like Perry, a one time ardent Pentecostal or Evangelical who now finds the appeal of government love and state organized wealth redistribution more emotionally powerful than a love of God and a commitment to personal charity.

In the new Religion of Progressivism, it is the “rightwads” the “teabaggers”  who are conspiring to storm the heaven known as Washington, D.C.,  and tear down our great country and all the wonderful things which divine liberalism has bestowed upon a yearning humanity. Replacing the devil he once believed to be the source of evil in the world, now stand those evil conservatives and their imagined conspiracies. And don’t try to reason him out of that view. It’s his blog and he feels the way he feels and that is all there is to it. Nothing to discuss, period.

Well, the ending was obviously foreordained.

Seeing that a month of reasoning effort was going just as far as years did with Perry Hood, which is to say absolutely nowhere substantively, I figured I might as well speak directly and let the chips fall where they may. The proximate occasion was John’s post entitled :

I Haven’t Got My Obamacare-Mandated RFID Chip Implant Yet!
Posted on July 8, 2014

DAMN! WHAT’S THE BIG HOLD UP?

He continued in the following manner …

“The Right Wing scum were screaming, yammering, bitching, moaning, crying and howling that every American Citizen was going to be forced to have some kind of microchip implanted under their skin by the year 2013. This mandatory microchip called an RFID chip ( Radio Frequency Identification Chip) is something the Right-Tighters were insisting was absolutely required by The Patient Protection and Affordable Health Care Act ( Obamacare ) and that no American Citizen would be immune from having their government force them to have this device implanted in their skin.

Well the bastards must have either been wrong about the requirement for the implant or the government simply has not yet gotten around to implanting me with my Obamacare-Mandated RFID Chip yet and here it is 2014 ….

Could it be that the Rightscum got this one wrong? …

My desire is that when the Rightwads get their mandatory RFID chip compliments of Obamacare ( As they have been claiming ) they get it up the rear end! To know that little tidbit of knowledge would be intensely pleasing to me as a left of center moderate liberal.”

 

This of course from the man who said : “If you see me engaging in any conversation that seems to you like it might qualify as “Bad Taste” please leave me a comment and alert me to my digression . . . regression. I definitely want to elevate “American Liberal Times” above the level of decency employed by a great number of what I call “Right Wing Hater Blogs …”

Yes well, given that, the following exchange ensued.

Me to John:

DNW on July 8, 2014 at 12:29 PM said:

One of you(r) commenters asks,

‘*groan* Are they back on that old kick again?’

Apparently “they” [“rightwads”, or whatever] , are not.The only source you cite, and from which as cited he/she could have draw such a conclusion, is a four year old, 2010 Snopes article wherein the following is stated:

” First off, the referenced information was not part of the “Obamacare” health care legislation actually enacted by Congress. … the cited wording did not appear in the replacement bill (HR 3590) eventually passed as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, … although similar language was included in initial versions of the subsequent reconciliation bill (HR 4872), it too did not appear in the final version of that bill as passed by Congress.

Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/microchip.asp#5R6LYeXixaxwE03C.99”

So, although the alarm was based on proposed, rather than passed legislation, and the case for alarm overdrawn in addition, the issue of implantable RF chips has been in the news consistently, as has been government mandated individual medical reviews and health data collecting.

In fact, as you will recall, John Edwards stated that as part of his universal heath care program he was in favor of a policy of government mandated annual checkups with individual medical records being accessible by the government.

With fascistic and even apocalyptic sounding policies being noised about by mainstream Democrat candidates like Edwards, it is only expected that the casual reader might react with more alarm than justified.

But of course we are left with the question as to how many modern liberals really would object to such a mandate if it were promulgated? Certainly, numbers of “the Democratic Underground” commentators who discussed this issue, saw no problems with it, if those who were mandated, were on the government insurance plan. ….”

So, in other words, I pointed out that the old Snopes article simply addressed the language that did pass, while offering an interpretation (probably correct) of the language that was omitted.  But that that nonetheless left John’s post as little more than a  vitriolic attack on what looked to be a blatantly resurrected strawman from years past .

John, combatitively responded:

“The reason I published the RFID article was so as to keep the insanity of the right wing conspiracy nuts in front of the voting Public. The voters need to be reminded often of the nutwad mindset of the radical righties and …”

To which I replied:

In other words you dredged up a 4 year old article on an anonymous viral e-mail, not because anyone with a public profile was saying such things, nor because anyone at all was now saying such things, but because you wanted to stir the tar pot and apply the brush, just “… in case somebody who should know better is thinking of believing any of their crap.”

Better take another look at what you are really up to, John.

To which John retorted:

” My job is to expose the lies, deceit and treacheries of the radical right wing wherever I can find them and that is the mission of this blog and that is what I do. The radical right is a cancer eating at all that is decent and good about America and it is on a straightline agenda to destroy the country …”

 

This was going nowhere fast, obviously. And shortly before my remark above, and explicitly adverting to the misunderstandings of the naive or ill informed, I had also written

DNW on July 8, 2014 at 4:13 PM said:

Ridiculing naive or gullible types for reporting liberals as promoting completely crazy and Nazi-like things, doesn’t work that well when the liberals can actually be shown as saying pretty outlandish and unmistakably fascist things, as was the case with John Edwards.

Left-fascism, that is pan-ethnic social solidarity fascism, has become, I think you will grant, pretty much the default position of the modern Democrat Party. Though they prefer to refer to it with terms such as “community values”, “solidarity”, and shared individual responsibility.

Actually the impulse dates right back to the beginnings of the social security, “social insurance” movement. Getting people insured was never the only goal: establishing a sense of collective and mutualist identity was right there from the beginning.

It’s always comforting to have neighbors who cannot say no, because the law won’t allow them to. But it isn’t freedom or dignity.

Which provoked the following retort from John as he slammed the barn door closed after the horse had departed:

“John on July 8, 2014 at 6:44 PM said: The comparisons of Liberals to fascists and nazis has invoked my Godwin Law response and you can be sure you will not be commenting on this blog again. …” 

It is of course doubtful that an accurate reading of what I had written about “naive or gullible types” reporting liberals as promoting Nazi-like things, actually functions to compare liberals to Nazis.

However, indignant liberals may rest assured that I while I certainly did not myself compare liberals to Nazis, nor all liberals to fascists, I did in fact plainly state that pan-ethnic social solidarity fascism, ” … has become, I think you will grant, pretty much the default position of the modern Democrat Party.”

And so it indisputably has.

I suppose for those modern liberals of tender feelings, outright saying that left-fascism is pretty much the default position of the modern Democrat Party is almost as bad as “comparing Liberals” to fascists. LOL

As for John, well, he will go about his life just as before, feeding his spite and the appetite of his readers for venom, by posting multiple vitriolic and accusatory entries daily. Then, gushing out gratitude to the chorus of a couple, while vigilantly defending against “rightwads” who either mock him on their blogs or dare to try and reason with him on his own – by taking an eraser to whatever remarks he can.

And after all, why expect otherwise? Hasn’t he told us plainly that he is not interested in reasoning and has no principles worth discussing? He has indeed. I just could not quite believe he meant it and had to test for myself.

As for me, I will go on my way as well. Having tried one more fruitless time to reason with a self-proclaimed liberal by taking him up on the unsolicited invitation to visit his site which he left as a link after first visiting here, I’ll now go about my business.

Yet, I am still hopeful, if not confident, that there is somewhere a liberal who has not nihilistically abandoned reason for appetite, sentiment, and arbitrary will; a liberal somewhere who can be reasoned with on and about principles. It just happens that John the Liberal, like Perry is not and cannot be made into, such a person. They have both said as much themselves.

God help us if modern liberals really are in fact all intellectually and spiritually reduced to such mindless, vitriol spewing, husks.

Happy 76th birthday, John-the-liberal.

Perhaps someone else will be able to give you the appetite for careful and dispassionate reasoning which you so plainly, and admittedly, and tragically, lack.