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Death to the Memes!

Posted by Foxfier on 2011/09/18


I’m coming to hate Perry Bots, just because they are so freaking wed to spreading memes– dumb ones, at that!  It’s not to Ronulan levels of annoying, yet, but cut it out!  You’re not doing him any good.

Same way that not all Ron Paul supporters are the annoying, brainless sort of Ron Paul supporter, not all Rick Perry supporters are these annoying cut-and-paste artists who haven’t got enough imagination to even rephrase the freaking arguments.  I’d estimate that they’re less than one in ten, actually– the Ron Paul supporter thing is highly biased by the way that folks who agree with ‘im on some points don’t want to be associated with the nutjobs.  If this can’t be stopped, Perry is going to face similar problems.  Heck, for all I know, that’s part of someone’s plan.  Heaven knows that dumber plans have been implemented, and probably even been successful. 

Focusing on the mandated vaccination for an STD for school girls, I’ll list off a few, with responses:
“It had an opt-out, it’s not really a mandate.”
That opt-out is exactly the same as for every other mandatory vaccine in Texas. You ask the gov’t to send you the form, fill it out, get it notarized and then you get permission to not be vaccinated with whatever for two years. (In theory, at least.)

“It’s horrible that Bachmann is giving support to the anti-vaccine movement!”
Possibly the locations I’m most familiar with– Seattle, Portland and SoCal– messes with the sampling I have in this, but none of the folks I know who are “anti-vaccine” are feeling validated by anything a Republican would say, because THEY ARE LIBERALS. The same sort of folks who think “organic” means “healthier” and “more nutritious.”

“It’s OK, Perry was just making it so the insurance companies would pay for the vaccine.”
Oh, that’s a lovely defense of someone going for the Republican nomination: his goal wasn’t to abuse his power and interfere with parental rights by mandating a new STD drug on little girls from a company that gave him money and hired his friend– he was just trying to force a private company to pay for something he personally thought was a good idea.

“Perry said he messed up/is sorry/wouldn’t do it that way again/etc.”
Where?  Please, seriously, I’ve asked for folks to give a link to exactly what he actually said, and nobody will do it– there is a WORLD of difference between him saying “that looked really bad,” “I shouldn’t have used an executive order,” “I should have gone with an opt-in instead of an opt-out” or “I would not do something like that again.”  Or even, “yeah, I was an utter idiot with my rhetoric on that…sorry.”  (The “pro-life” justification, the various polio claims, etc.)

“Watch this video with an interview of people who know someone who died of cervical cancer!”
Wow!  Women dying is a bad thing– I had no idea!  I am now utterly on the side of government ordered everything that someone claims could save a few in a hundred thousand lives, if someone can find an emotional argument for it, and to heck with any consideration for personal rights!

“You just hate science/are ignorant/are anti-medicine!”
No, you ad hominem slinging idiot; there’s no shortage of medical professionals who also did not think it was a great idea.  Even the “preventing cancer” thing isn’t open-shut, even with those who go from “associated with” into “causes.” While you’re at it, could you please educate yourself on HPV, and stop spreading flat misinformation?  At least figure out a bit about the various types, and pay attention to the stats that folks throw around…. While I’m dreaming about people paying attention to the facts, stop citing Wikipedia.  It’s a handy jump-off point, but it’s worthless on anything where there’s debate precisely because it’s a wiki.

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4 Responses to “Death to the Memes!”

  1. That whole executive order mandating Gardasil with an opt-out that you may or may not qualify for is a big freakin’ deal to me. That’s a huge Big Government power grab. Not only that, that is a single-person power grab. And the excuse “it was only done to force health insurers to cover it” is another huge power grab, a violation of the Tenth Amendment as the Framers created it to be used.

    And what does forcing insurance companies to cover Gardasil do? It raises insurance premiums to practically everyone who has health insurance. The single dude or dudette with no kids? Too bad. You have to subsidize the cost of your neighbor’s vaccine. Or you could “opt out” by refusing to carry health insurance. The family with only boys? Too bad. You have to subsidize the costs of families full of girls. Big Brother said so.

    That’s precisely what we’re fighting against right now.

    And the serious red flag of crony capitalism is a big freakin’ deal to me, too. Leave that crony capitalism crap to the Democrats and be a free-market capitalist. There’s a reason roughly 3/4 of grass-roots Republicans and over half of the independents say the Ruling Class Republicans are to the Left of and out of touch with the base. There’s a reason so many people frustratedly say there’s no difference between the Republicans and Democrats. And the crony capitalism and Big Brother powergrab that is present in the Gardasil EO, combined with the Trans-Texas Corridor EO (both shot down by the Texas Legislature, by the way) is part of that out of touch Ruling Class Republican/Democrat Lite problem.

    Now, I’m on record endorsing Sarah Palin (and making that endorsement the official TBD endorsement), but I’m also on record declaring Rick Perry to be my third choice for President come the 2012 elections. This doesn’t change that at all. In fact, this reinforces that. Rick Perry is the third best option, and there is no fourth best option.

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  2. Foxfier said

    To be scrupulously fair, the current opt-out– which may or may not be the same as when the mandate was put through– allows one to opt out for generic “personal views.” (at least one earlier version of the opt-out was only with a doctor’s signed note)
    It’s still having to file for permission to NOT be vaccinated for your own freaking good.

    Perry strikes me as a generic politician. It’s frusterating that we’ll probably end up with him, though I think he may do an alright job simply because that’s where the political pressure is on at the moment. (Big take-away from Texas is that he’s very willing to do the right thing if that’s how the political wind is blowing– which beats the heck out of most Dems.)

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  3. […] Death to the Memes! […]

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  4. […] for the Conservative base. Period. Michele Bachmann has been rather gaffe-tastic of late. Rick Perry has crony capitalism, government mandate, illegal immigration […]

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