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How Much Is This Costing Us?

Posted by Foxfier on 2010/04/05

from ((my real name here)) <****>
date Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:10 PM
subject 0607-0919-C
hide details Mar 9
Where can I access a copy of OMB No. 0607-0919-C?

“My attitude toward progress has passed from antagonism to boredom. I have long ceased to argue with people who prefer Thursday to Wednesday because it is Thursday.” – GK Chesterton, New York Times Magazine, 2/11/23

Moments ago:

How to Obtain a Census Form Inbox X
date Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 12:49 PM
subject How to Obtain a Census Form
hide details 12:49 PM (25 minutes ago)

April 1, 2010

Dear Resident:

We have received your March 2009 request for a 2010 Census form. We ask
that you please wait a little longer. As of April 1, we began mailing
replacement forms. If through some error you did not get your original
form, you still might get a replacement form. Please note that in some
parts of the country (about 1% of all addresses), including remote areas,
many American Indian reservations, or areas without postal delivery, the
Census Bureau does not send a form to the household. In these areas, we
send an enumerator to collect the household information in person. Except
for these areas, we have gone to great lengths to ensure a questionnaire is
delivered to every address. However, we know that sometimes this won’t
happen. Therefore we have set up two ways for you to be included in the

1) Visit a Questionnaire Assistance Center or Be Counted Center

Visit a Questionnaire Assistance Center or Be Counted Center and pick up a
blank form. A “Be Counted” form asks you to put down a full description of
your address, and contains the same 10 questions as the other Census form.
You can complete a Be Counted form if you have not received your original
form. Be Counted forms are available now through April 19 in public
locations, such as libraries, within your community and at Questionnaire
Assistance Centers where census workers are available to answer your
questions. To find a site in your community, please visit our website at

2) Contact Us

If you still have not received your form by April 12, then you may contact
one of our 2010 Census Toll-free help lines. An agent can send you a form
to fill out, or can take your interview over the phone.

English: 1-866-872-6868 Chinese: 1-866-935-2010 Korean:
Russian: 1-866-965-2010 Spanish: 1-866-928-2010 Vietnamese:
TDD (Telephone Display Device for the hearing impaired): 1-866-783-2010
Puerto Rico (in English): 1-866-939-2010 Puerto Rico (in Spanish):

Thank you for your interest in the 2010 Census. We look forward to your


Frank A. Vitrano
Chief, Decennial Management Division

Formatting maintained, the only change being removing my name and email from the header of the first.  (Yes, they apparently did a BCC on a very, very cruddy response.  Hm, think maybe they got more emails than expected?)

Dude, when you’re doing a bad form letter….just let it look like a form letter; if you want to do a better form letter, send 5,000 emails with the right name and address rather than one email BCCed 5,000 times; either way, get better programmers to design the response system.

 Emailed back that their response had nothing to do with my question, and got the following response:

My apology for the mistake.

You asked….Where can I access a copy of OMB No. 0607-0919-C?

Answer: Go to . Select Volume
73 and search on 0607-0919. On next screen, select the second item, 2010

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That leads to this document: fr26mr08N Proposed Information Collection; Comment Request; 2010 Decennial.

It mentions something close to my requested information:

III. Data

OMB Control Number: 0607-0919.
Form Numbers:

D-5(L), Advance Letter (English, Spanish).


But not really much of an answer… I can GUESS that OMB No. 0607-0919-C was approved to refer to the various documents listed, and I can GUESS there wasn’t a change…but still not much of a response.

It ends thus:

Comments submitted in response to this notice will be summarized
and/or included in the request for OMB approval of this information
collection; they also will become a matter of public record.

5 Responses to “How Much Is This Costing Us?”

  1. Matt said

    Found it:


  2. Foxfier said

    Golly, thank you so much for even more links to…um… the census form. Gee. Because I didn’t get that a month ago, before taking the time to email….


  3. Matt said

    Ok, I guess I’m a bit lost on your post then… you wrote to ask where you can get this form, they replied telling you where to get the form… am I missing something?


  4. Jeff said

    Interestingly, the last time around, Democrats suggested that the census use sampling, which is both less expensive and generally more accurate than a straight head count (due to the incorporation of response bias into the poll). Republicans rejected it on the basis of such a census being unconstitutional.


  5. Foxfier said

    Matt- I asked for documentation of the authorization. In order to get an authorization number, you have to get authorization, and that has to be documented.

    it is unconstitutional. (Also very prone to sampler-bias, but that’s irrelevant to the constitutionality. It was suggested again for this year, to “catch” the “under counted”– just imagine ACORN workers walking along streets and estimating how many people are there, and you get an idea of how this might be bad.)
    They’re allowed, in the constitution, to ask how many people are in my house– there’s no mention of getting my phone number, the names of everyone there, or where our ancestors are from…or how many toilets we have….


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