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American Liberal Times blog, and where ravening left-liberalism leads …

Posted by DNW on 2014/12/09

[Update … as the author of the subject blog below attempts to figure out what to do with his site and energies, it has become viewable once again to any of the general public who might be interested. For my own part it served well enough as a warning; as much when it was not available for a few seconds of viewing, as when it occasionally was. It may not be pleasant to watch someone lose what is left of their faculty of reason to the effects of a self-induced mania, but the image, and the lesson, certainly stays with you.]

 

Down the rabbit hole …

 

 

“Therein lies the path to madness”

Somebody needs serious help

Somebody needs serious help

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Our erstwhile commenter John The Liberal, he of the silly hat and still proprietor of American Liberal Times, seems to have embarked on a journey that has finally lead him over the edge. Although we neither comment there any longer, nor attempt to, an occasional glance at the raving political lunacy fulminating from his blog, serves as a healthful reminder to ourselves not to let things get too out of hand; lest we end up like that. Despite his constant pleas for comment, readers of this blog will recollect that John The Liberal not only banned conservative commenters from his blog, but also reported that he went through years of postings in order to purge all trace of their past presence. This does not necessarily mean that he does not himself read conservative blogs, since his postings on his own site often reference and rail against the contemptuous views which conservatives have reportedly displayed both toward him and his product.

 

Now, unless he is making this up, or is referencing very old comments or newly screened comments he does not allow to post, he is reading conservative comments on conservative blogs.

 

Yet nursing these grievances is not quite enough. Apparently the mere fact that conservative infidels can see his blog at all is too much insult for John The Liberal to bear. Mr. Hitchcock of this blog, once reported that he was unable to return the favor of John the Liberal’s visit here, because he was peremptorily banned from American Liberal Times blog or filtered out before having even gotten one comment posted. Now, as if to prove that John The Liberal and his loyal crew of vomit eaters need no stinkin’ outsiders at all, John The Liberal, has, and apparently intentionally, banned anyone not previously cleared from even looking at his site.

How “liberal” of him.

Mine all mine

Mine all mine

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Because so many of us have been laughing at it, rather than with the American Liberal Times blog, there might be a kind of perverse logic there. If John The Liberal refuses to give up his morally shameful practices, he will at least hide them from prying eyes.

 

Just goes to show what self-abuse leads to ultimately …

My precious! MY PRECIOUS!

My precious! MY PRECIOUS!

Posted in ABJECT FAILURE, Blogging Matters, Culture, Entertainment, Humor - For Some, Insanity, Liberal, We Won't Miss You | 1 Comment »

I Finally Physically Met Someone I Met While Blogging

Posted by John Hitchcock on 2014/11/22

And it took traveling to the Philippines to do it. I met Climate Destruction DENIER from Twitchy here in the Philippines. He, his wife, and his Philippine family were very gracious hosts, providing far more food than could be eaten in 3 sittings. And that was only the lunch. We also went sight-seeing so I could better understand circumstances as they relate to my own business ideas for the Philippines. Climate Destruction DENIER likes my ideas, and has started the process of information gathering in an effort to implement my ideas — with his alterations — here on Luzon.

But the important thing is I have found a family in Luzon that I can really talk business plans and culture differences with. I hesitate to call him an ex-pat because there are negative connotations with that term among some people. He’s a US citizen with a lovely Pinay wife, living on Luzon.

I hope to learn a lot more from him, and to further develop our acquaintance relationship into a solid friendship. He’s very clearly good people, despite some of our disagreements. Actually… I like the fact we have disagreements. Two of me in the same room for any length of time would result in one of me in that room.

I definitely have business plans aiming more than one direction for the Philippines. I also have business plans, aiming basically only one direction in the US, and I am actively working to make the US plans work, despite some setbacks. The destruction of my credit history, which started in November 2008, is a major stumbling block, at least for my US LLC. If I can get these multiple plans working, I can be officially retired at a younger age than most Americans, while continuing to do some heavy work while retired.

It is much less expensive to live in the Philippines, and the people, for the most part, are much friendlier than what you’ll find in the US. And now that I’ve met Climate Destruction DENIER and his family in person, I also have an anchor of sorts in the Philippines. Things are looking up, with multiple hurdles to … hurdle, but looking up, nonetheless.

Posted in Blogging Matters, Culture, economics, Personal Responsibility, Real Life, society | Tagged: , , , , | 3 Comments »

William Schmalfeldt, Eat Your Heart Out

Posted by John Hitchcock on 2014/11/16

I am far less active these past two years than I was in 2012 and prior, due to my work (which has put me solidly in the middle class, whatever that is), and my blog’s hit-count and “other author activity” have taken a large toll, since my original article writing has dropped off precipitously. I do not claim to be a journalist. I have not fail-doxxed anyone. I have not tied my caboose (which is not nearly as sizeable) to a terrorist bomber/drug smuggler/perjurer/alleged pedophile/lawfare warrior (who loses his lawsuits)/fail-doxxer’s choo-choo. I have not been an adjudicated harasser in any state, much less multiple states. I have not been ordered to stop printing other people’s work. I have not tried to make money by printing other people’s work. I have not superimposed other people’s heads (and possibly photos of minors’ heads) on homoerotic pron. I don’t have a huge mock-worthy name among the blogosphere and among certain court-houses.

But I do have 156 blog followers, 50 facebook followers (for the website, many other “friends” who catch my feed that way), and year-to-date 80 page-views a day. Schmalfeldt only wishes he had that much of a following. And I’m a super-cereal micro-blog.

So, William Schmalfeldt, and Candy the TK bandit, eat your collective hearts out. I win.

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Oh, Heck No!ELEVENTY!

Posted by John Hitchcock on 2014/11/15

Townhall.com just declared I am George H W Bush! The evils of that are astounding. First of all, I said I am Conservative. GHWB was and is no Conservative. He is not Conservative. Can you hear me? None of the Bush family are Conservative. Get that through your thick skulls.

I am not like GHWB. Ronald Reagan was too far Left for me, and I said so in 1985. GWHB was, clearly, to the left of Ronaldus Maximus, and was selected to appease the Statist Republicans.

Take the quiz yourselves, if you dare.

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Adjusting the angle of attack …

Posted by DNW on 2014/09/02

I’ve come to the conclusion that the tenor of some of my recent postings have done virtually no one, including myself, most especially myself, much good.

To put it in the most self-serving terms possible, this lapse has generally occurred while I was critiquing the work of leftist bloggers.

Now, when doing so you have a choice: 1, to stick to pointing out the faults of the narrative, or 2, to also if it seems justified, go after the one doing the narrating – usually by judging them by the announced standard by which they judge others.

With the left, the fundamental standards of social and political, if not all human value, are generally implied to be “intelligence” and artfulness. In their moral universe, the liberal moral universe,  moral values are not discovered, but “created”. So, for example, so-called “Tea Partiers” are berated for being, not merely wrong, but for being uncouth, uncultured, generally ignorant, and above all as fundamentally unintelligent.

Obviously then,  it’s quite tempting to analyze the left’s own polemics in the same terms.

And when you do so, that is to say act by not only marking their errors, but also the “reasonableness” of the errors, the transparency of the errors, and the likelihood of those falsehoods being deliberate as opposed to inadvertent, you are quite possibly tempted, as I have been, to throw up your hands and simply conclude that the liberal writers are either lying, or idiots, or both.

The recent result here has been half-a-dozen of my  posts prominently featuring the term “stupid” in reference to particular persons spouting a leftist line.

Now, in the abstract, they might deserve this treatment. Or they might not.

But I am tired of seeing it in my own productions.

In fact I am going to re-title a couple of my entries and make some modest textual changes.

I don’t want to become in some measure what I am critiquing, by picking up their standards and flinging them back at them. No matter how much they may seem to deserve it..

Even though I have often accused conservatives of playing with one hand tied behind their back, and of being inhibited by limits liberals don’t share, there has to be a better way than sounding as if you have adopted leftist premises yourself.

It’s not only stupid to become the enemy, but ultimately wrong.

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Six TBD Authors Were Read Yesterday

Posted by John Hitchcock on 2014/09/01

I looked at the stats for yesterday. Six authors on this site were read yesterday. That’s impressive because four of the six haven’t posted an article here in ages. That means TBD has lasting power for people searching for information. The authors should be proud to know their work is still read, long after they produced it.

Posted in Blogging Matters | 3 Comments »

Join The Ratspittle Lickery Battalion #CabinBoy

Posted by John Hitchcock on 2014/08/28

And have loads of fun!

Posted in Blogging Matters, Character, funny business, Humor - For Some, Insanity, Personal Responsibility | Tagged: , , , | 1 Comment »

Just A Thought

Posted by John Hitchcock on 2014/08/24

If you’re going to falsely accuse someone of pedophilia, you might not want your IP randomizer to point to a nation which is protecting a notorious criminal who drugged and then anally raped a child. Just a thought.

This message brought as a PSA to the noted anti-Semite whose IP randomizer seems to be heavily centered on Europe.

Posted in Blogging Matters, crime, Law | 2 Comments »

A moment of reflection …

Posted by DNW on 2014/08/19

I’ve taken a backward glance at a number of the posts I have put up in recent months, and noticed what has become a recurring theme for me: the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of the everyday left and its mouthpieces.

I also notice that in choosing the most plainspoken and idiomatic terms available, I have repeatedly labeled their condition “stupidity”.

Now, this “Dishonest stupidity of everyday Progressives” business, is not a theme I have intentionally chosen to harp on. It is simply the result of watching what everyday progressives do, of listening carefully (and dispassionately above all else) to what they themselves say, and of then evaluating the narrative they are putting forth for (presumably) our consumption, for its logical coherence, evidence of intellectual integrity, and overall sense.

It is startling to reflect that in the process of reviewing so many different progressives’ work for intellectual coherence and truth value, I have been inexorably led to the same end-point; a place wherein I was confronted with the obvious:  that progressives habitually lie, are untroubled by their lying and duplicity, and that they are not even very clever in doing it.

Katie Halper, John The Liberal, Benjamin Crump, progressives big and small, public and not so public, they are all essentially the same ends-justify-the-means types who live in a world of moral convenience: one which they ultimately strive to order for their emotional comfort and satisfaction.

Ann Coulter sometime ago commented that despite the progressive’s constant talk of intelligence as if it were a cardinal if not the supreme, moral virtue, they seem to be quite deficient when it comes to exercising it themselves or in applying that intelligence standard to members of their political client class.

And perhaps that is the key, and why I placed the word “presumably” in parentheses when I said above that progressives were speaking for “our consumption”. They really are not. The progressives are not trying to convince us. Instead, as David Horowitz had made himself blue in the face pointing out, their rhetoric is not designed to convince us of the validity of their reasoning, so much as to wage social war upon us by manipulating emotionally immature, and mentally limited third parties.

Knowing their own herd then,  given who they themselves are, what they value, and who it is that aligns with them, they know that they need not be careful, accurate, or truthful; and that emotion and sarcasm serve their ends better than reason.

As their chosen audience has presumptively little or nothing in the way of critical faculties or genuine knowledge, they need not trouble themselves too much when it comes to arousing them.

“Stupid”, may not be the most artful word to describe the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of political progressives. But apart from terms such as “nihilist”, “self-serving hypocrite”, or “evil”, it seems upon consideration, to be the most accurate.

Posted in Blogging Matters, Liberal, Uncategorized | 1 Comment »

I Wrote A Comment At American Liberal Times

Posted by John Hitchcock on 2014/08/17

DNW has been regaling us with the absurdity that is the Loony Left as represented by one John the Liberal, who runs American Liberal Times. Well, the clown who unfortunately shares my first name wrote an article blasting Voter ID (which is supported by a majority of each segment of each spectrum) and simultaneously calling for mandatory voting. I responded. I expected to get a message saying my comment is in moderation. I did not get that message. Instead, I got a response from the site that suggested my comment went directly into the spam filter. That response was a refreshing of the direct page without even the hint that I commented at all. Good job, DNW. Not only did you get yourself banned from the illogical, deceitful, dishonorable site, but you also got this site, which is based on Honor, banned from it. That does, indeed, show the depth of depravity, the complete inability to hear the truth, the total disregard for Honorable debate “John the Liberal” has.

Knowing there might be an issue with commenting there, I had the forethought to save what I wrote before hitting the submit button. And here it is.

You say “feel free to comment” when you actually mean “comment when and if your opinion matches my own completely off-balance opinion”. I know this to be the case because an author on my blog has attempted to enter into an intellectual and logical debate with you. What did he get in return? “La la la la la I can’t hear you.” And a “you’re not welcome” sign.

You’re not interested in the truth. While I do know Leftists who are, indeed, interested in honest debate; aphrael (the “married” homosexual Leftist at Patterico’s Pontifications) and Jeff (the Left-wing Jewish heterosexual who is down for the cause of homosexual “marriage” (something every true Christian is foursquare against) at Opinions Nobody Asked For) are two such examples, you, however are not in that crowd. I have strong respect for both aphrael and Jeff, despite their being wrong on just about every issue. They, at least, try to debate honestly. You should give it a try yourself.

The only thing that seems to happen is that the voter ID laws become ever increasingly demanding

Prove it. You won’t because you can’t. It’s just a sham you on the Left push in your efforts to make enforcement of eligibility requirements as difficult as possible. You need the fraudulent votes. You need the politicians’ lies. Without both, you lose lots of elections you’re currently winning.

You claim vote fraud is rare. The way you write suggests it’s virtually unheard of. The only reason it would be unheard of is due to the fact mainstream media works so hard to hide it. Vote fraud is hardly rare. I have personally compiled a small sampling of massive voter fraud and voter registration fraud. And it inevitably points to your side of the political spectrum. The side that has the absolute belief that there are no absolutes. (Talk about an intellectually and logically untenable position…)

While it is difficult to ascertain the depths of the vote fraud and voter registration fraud perpetrated by Democrats and Leftists, my proven documentation of Democrat officials engaging in both destroys your claims. As does the 120 percent voter registration in Indianapolis. 120 percent. When even 100 percent is statistically impossible without fraud. And the over 100 percent vote in Florida, used to unseat a black man from office because he didn’t toe the Democrat plantation line.

But your suggestion of making voting mandatory does two things I want to point out here.

1) It proves you on the Left are not at all about independence. You are not at all about individual freedom. You are about control of the people. You are fascist at the core. (That’s what mandatory voting is: Fascism. So, own it or be dishonorable and run from it.)

2) It proves you need the wholly uninformed to vote for your emotionalist scare arguments because, when it’s only the informed who vote, you lose cataclysmically. You cannot win when the people are truly informed and involved. It is impossible. Therefore, the more uninformed the people who vote, the better it is for your totalitarian side. This is proven by the results of “low voter turnout” votes. Those who “don’t get into politics”, in other words, those uninformed types, are more likely to not vote in low voter turnout elections. And low voter turnout elections tend to tilt far to the Right. Thus your need for the uninformed, uneducated, non-critical-thinking masses to be “forced” to vote.

Quite frankly, I would be happy if those who did not pay Federal taxes in the previous year or two were not permitted to vote on any issue that raised taxes on those who actually do pay taxes. Why should the leeches of society get to vote on how much they can leech off those who are forced to lend their arms for the blood-sucking? But my position would be clearly unconstitutional, so I do not advocate for it. Your position, which you are strongly advocating for, is equally unconstitutional.

But since when did the Constitution ever get in the way of you on the far Left?

Here, you can find other articles on this site that concerns voter fraud, voter registration fraud, and the like.

Posted in Blogging Matters, Constitution, Constitution Shredded, Elections, Law, Liberal, Over-regulation, Personal Responsibility, Philosophy, politically correct, Politically Incorrect, politics, society, Vote Fraud | Tagged: , , , , | 4 Comments »

What An Ordeal

Posted by John Hitchcock on 2014/08/15

I am at this moment in a hotel room, getting ready to head off to the airport for my three week overseas trip. But just getting here was an ordeal and a half. The company I am contracted to has known I needed to be in Salt Lake City by the 13th or 14th so I can catch my flight on the 15th for 2 months. And I kept training students right up to the end (a break in training of 45 days or more means I would have to go through the 4-day training class all over again). My last student found my truck in the shop 5 times in 5 weeks, one of those times being his fault. I had nox sensor issues more than once, a clutch replaced, a fuel pump replaced, a cylinder liner replaced, and a brand new 1200 dollar super-single drive tire replaced with another brand new 1200 dollar tire (his fault).

On August 6, I was in California. I delivered a load to Carson, then went over to Colton to pick up my next load, headed to Shelbyville, Tennessee. The load was to pick up between 10am and 11pm on the 6th, so I arrived at 5am and waited. And waited. And waited some more. It wasn’t ready at 10am like it was supposed to be, then at 1pm I was informed a stop in Ochelaka, Oklahoma was added. It was finally ready to go at 7pm.

The delivery times of 3am on the 8th for OK and 3am on the 9th for TN got changed. New delivery times were 630am on the 9th and 3am on the 10th. And I got time to go into the shop at the Petro to get my drive tire replaced. My student had dropped a trailer and pulled out from under it, like is done 120 times a year. Only he didn’t lower the landing gear far enough, and he pulled out real fast without stopping midway to assure things were good. The trailer dropped down onto the drive tire, and since he was pulling out too fast, the truck came right out, shredding the tread on one 1200 dollar super-single drive tire. All the way around the tire.

I got load assignments to pick up a load on the morning of the 10th to deliver to Haverhill, Massachusetts the morning of the 11th and pick up a load in the Boston area 3pm on the 11th to be delivered to Ogden, UT on the 13th.

After delivering in OK, my Shelbyville delivery time for the 10th got changed to 720am, meaning I would be late to pick up in Murfreesboro, late to deliver to Haverhill, late to pick up in the Boston area. So I go pick up my load in Murfreesboro. And lo and behold, the yard jockey had backed the trailer up too far. He pushed the trailer tires against a large concrete back-stop, pinning the mudflap between the back-stop and the tire. And when he dropped the trailer, he tore off the mudflap and bent the bracket. I was going to have to go out-of-route to Nashville to get the damage repaired. But first, it being a heavy load, I had to get the truck scaled out. And there was a long line inside the truckstop waiting for the scale ticket. And then the scale ticket. 30,000 on the drives and 36,600 on the trailer. 34,000 maximum. So back out, stretch the trailer tandems as long as legally possible. Rescale. 32,000 on the drives, 34,600 on the trailer. Overweight. Back to the shipper to rework the load. Over an hour lost at the truckstop. Two hours lost at the shipper. Then back to the truckstop to scale it out, and it’s legal this time.

So next we go to the TA to get the mudflap hanger straightened and a new mudflap installed. 40 miles out of route, and 3 hours wait time. And we’re finally ready to roll on to Haverhill, MA. Shortly after leaving Nashville on I-40, a man with white hair and a short-cropped white beard walked toward the highway so my student moved into the left lane and slowed down. The man continued walking out onto the 70 mph highway, and then he really did it. He threw something that looked like a brick at my windshield! He missed, hitting my mirror mount and barely hitting the lower seal around the passenger mirror.

Instead of delivering in Haverhill at 4am on the 11th, it looked like a 5pm delivery. My load out of Boston to Ogden got pulled off me. Now, I had a delivery in Northeast Massachusetts for the evening of the 11th with nothing getting to Utah. And a flight and hotel room I already paid for on the line. But my Dispatch Manager pulled through. I had an 11pm pick up in Middletown, Connecticut to be delivered to Salt Lake City 11pm on the 13th.

So, we get stuck behind a crash on I-78 on the Pennsylvania/New Jersey border. Then we get stuck behind a crash on I-287 in New York. Then we get stuck in a 7 mile back-up behind a crash on I-95 in Connecticut. Then we get stuck in a back-up on I-290 in Massachusetts. We finally get delivered in Haverhill at 930pm, when it was supposed to be delivered at 4am. Now, off to the Connecticut pick-up. And… we get stuck in an hour-long back-up on I-90 in Massachusetts. And a midnight pick-up. Other than unseasonable cold and unusual rain where it doesn’t normally in the summer, the trip to Salt Lake City was uneventful. Finally, I could relax.

There’s still time for something else to be screwed up since I am not on the plane yet…

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The liberalism of the American Liberal Times blog

Posted by DNW on 2014/08/14

A little while ago I posted on my failed project to enter into a constructive dialog with a liberal … any liberal at all. The latest case being, one John The Liberal, the proprietor of the “American Liberal Times” blog.

That was then.

 

Now, introducing just a little more of John The Liberal.

American Liberal

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John The Liberal has a few observations and rhetorical-style questions.

We will present his remarks as “questions” and “comments”, and then propose our own “answers”.

 

1, Question  from John:

“It seems that some “Christians” . . . ( I have no reason to doubt they are Christians . . . I am not their judge and jury . . . That is God’s Business) . . . some Christians seems to be Hell-bent ( pardon the unintended pun) on getting themselves into trouble by trying to export their belief system to foreign cultures . . . did you ever notice?”

 

Answer:

Dear John.

Yes we have. This is probably due to the fact that it is a critical and essential part of their faith according to its very Founder. Sometimes it is referred to as “The Great Commission” . You have repeatedly referred to your own religious faith in terms which would lead one to assume that it had, or once had, something to do with Christianity as well. So perhaps you heard of the command to evangelize at one time.

The following references were mostly taken directly from a Bible verse site which easily accessible to anyone looking to confirm.

 

Matthew Chapter 28

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, [even] unto the end of the world.
Mark 16:15

And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the Gospel to every creature.
Acts 1:8

But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Luke 12:8

Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God
Mark 4:21

And he said unto them, Is a candle brought to be put under a bushel, or under a bed? and not to be set on a candlestick?”

 

It should also be noted that Church history records that all the original apostles did in fact “get into trouble” exporting their faith to foreign cultures; with only one apostle even surviving the commission: albeit in exile.  The plain fact is that the faith was at one time foreign to all cultures; even the culture of its homeland.

So yes, John. Many people have noticed.

 

2, Comment from John:

“I am one of those “Liberal Freaks” who firmly believes that if some pew-jumper church starts preaching politics from the pulpit it should lost its tax-exempt status . . . period . . . end of story. Why should they rake in millions of tax-free dollars for their big wig preachers to live high on the hog on and be able to shove their politics down their parishioners’ throats at the same time?

It has nothing to do with “freedum of ree-ligiun” at all.

It has to do with trying to mix politics and religion – – and that is something that simply cannot work out in the long run. …

I’m all in favor of the government taxing the Living Hell out of any church that makes itself a virtual headquarters of some political party.
Share this:callous! I didn’t mean for it to sound that way but I think it has to be asked.)

 

Answer: Jeremiah Wright and Trinity United

 

3, An “observation”  from John The Liberal of American Liberal Times:

“When tyranny comes to a nation it always comes wrapped in a flag and carrying a gun and a Bible.”

Answer:

Really, John?

Pol-Pot Mao Zedong (1) Mao Zedong (2) Robespierre

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pol Pot

 

Mao

 

Stalin

 

Robespierre and the efforts of his friends and allies

 

Posted in Blogging Matters, Character, Christianity, Humor - For Some, Insanity, Liberal, truth, Uncategorized | 8 Comments »

Hate Messages Sent To This Site

Posted by John Hitchcock on 2014/07/25

you were a lousy teacher and you totes deserve your bad karma. hope you bankrupt soon.

That was attempted to be put up on my Good News And Bad News article.

The bad news is I’m not a professor at University of Wisconsin-Madison, or at Wyoming. You see, I died in 1712.

The good news is I’m one undead individual with enough brain power left not to vote Democrat.

Let’s see how many remember this:

“Will the real John Hitchcock please stand up?”

Posted in ABJECT FAILURE, Blogging Matters, education, Entertainment, Humor - For Some | 7 Comments »

We had a liberal visitor …

Posted by DNW on 2014/06/19

 

 

This blog might be said to be  semi-inactive, receiving only modest attention from its authors as we ruminate on subjects of peculiar interest to ourselves, rather than busying ourselves trying to feed the day-to-day social frenzy.

Not infrequently though, an outsider drops by. Surprisingly, a number of them leave off a blogging “like” icon without ever commenting.

The other day, John, of the American Liberal Times, a personal blog of his, and one which is,  shall we say, intensely opinionated, stopped in to read my remarks on the AOL Huffington Post.

That post concerned their Facebook channeling of any commentary on their news articles. This action was supposedly intended to enhance civility, thoughtfulness, and community, by eliminating the option of an even thinly veiled anonymity.

The policy obviously failed in accomplishing the first two supposed aims, but succeeded in ending the use of screen names or e-mail names as commenting identities. Whether it “enhanced community” as a result of eliminating the comments of conservatives who preferred not to take the first step in making their home addresses available to politically correct activists and picketers, is probably a matter of opinion.

The Huffington Post’s action certainly does seem to have cleansed the comment section of much conservative opinion, even if it did nothing to elevate the tone or improve the quality of the comments. Whether that constitutes an improvement in “the community” is as I just stated probably a matter of opinion.

Now, John of the American Liberal Times, remarked that he agreed – sort of – with the thrust of our post. At least he agreed that it was unwise to hand out much personal information on the Internet.  And he also left us a link to his own site.

So I visited him; and just in time to see him posting notice that he was turning over a new leaf himself “tonewise”,  and that he had thought better of his former practice of giving free rein to invective and vitriol.

I commended him for this, and left some other remarks.

John was gracious and profuse in his thanks for my visit, and by way of leaving comments on my comments, precipitated something of an exchange.

Throughout it all John was reserved, moderate, and polite; always thanking me for my visits and contribution.

After concluding our series of exchanges, I then decided to go back and take a look at where it had all led us. And I am afraid that the results have pretty much matched past patterns of such exchanges; especially the pattern that seemed to develop in my exchanges with Perry, a significant difference being that John had not descended to the level of making personal accusations of treason, or hardheartedness, or that of libertarians’ having a genetic tendency toward Neanderthal-like behavior.

But what was virtually identical was the manner in which the exchanges “evolved”. Those who recall my observations regarding the lack of an “on point” quality in my exchanges with Perry or the Iowa Libs, and how the logic of the arguments as developed in the thread were consistently sidestepped will … well you can take a look if you are interested, and judge for yourself.

Unfortunately, it may be that we are ultimately fated to largely talk past one another.

 

http://americanliberaltimes.com/2014/06/18/the-neocons-should-not-be-pontificating-about-iraq/

 

 

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